• Anyone out there have any

    From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 19 13:08:00 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politician
    say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with
    violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

    Oh yeah - have several - been an owner
    since I was seven
    years old.



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    ...or is this just to provide people with a place to argue about gun control?

    :-)

    LK

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Fri Apr 19 20:43:00 2019
    In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politician say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

    That sounds like a trick... any gun is dangerous for the person/animal it
    is being pointed at.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 21 10:35:00 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Apr 19 2019 08:43 pm

    In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms witho bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politicia say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are the referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

    That sounds like a trick... any gun is dangerous for the person/animal it
    is being pointed at.

    It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be
    said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

    Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun
    can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun laws were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistols, such as derringers.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 15:39:29 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:35 am

    It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

    Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun laws were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistols,

    anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sun Apr 21 20:00:00 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:35 am

    It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can b said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapo

    Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gu can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous beca they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun l were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistol

    anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

    The UK has a knife culture problem, and I read somewhere that in Japan any knife larger than a steak knife has to be registered with the state. Imagine the BS a chef or butcher would have to go through?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Apr 22 09:27:48 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

    anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

    The pen is mightier than the sword.

    Nightfox

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MOONDOG on Sun Apr 21 10:54:00 2019
    So we should pull all the dangerous cars from the road
    too... :-)




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    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard
    a politician say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used,
    which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

    Oh yeah - have several - been an owner
    since I was seven
    years old.



    LIZARD KING wrote to ALL <=-

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    @MSGID: <5BC7E7C4.1.dove-firearms@retrounderground.org>
    ...or is this just to provide people with a place to argue about gun control?

    :-)

    LK

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Mon Apr 22 19:56:00 2019
    It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

    I was taught never to point a gun at someone, whether I was pulling the
    trigger or not, or even if I thought it was not loaded. Always assume it
    is dangerous.

    My point is saying that I am a politican who is only going to go after dangerous guns leaves me a lot of leeway to go after pretty much every gun
    that has not been permanently disabled (and made useless) somehow.

    Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary.

    Sounds like you understood my point. :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Apr 23 01:16:41 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:54 am

    So we should pull all the dangerous cars from the road
    too... :-)


    can you post on the bottom please.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tue Apr 23 10:01:00 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 22 2019 09:27 am

    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

    anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

    The pen is mightier than the sword.

    Nightfox

    Depending on the item, it's either the assaulter's fault or the weapon's fault.
    Really strange how emotion decides that. Some of the greatest martial arts
    are the result of the people being disarmed

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Fri Apr 26 17:27:16 2019
    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: Moondog to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 19 2019 01:08 pm

    Re: Anyone out there have any
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without


    post on bottom please
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