• "Highly profitable" Bay S

    From Kaelon@VERT to Dumas Walker on Mon Jul 18 20:06:12 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to KAELON on Mon Jul 18 2022 04:04 pm

    I am not familiar with the other two but, based on the order you have them in, I am assuming that Handbrake has to do something first that it cannot
    do if it cannot find anything?

    Admittedly, it's been a few years since I ripped off Blu-Rays and DVDs, but you use Slyfox's AnyDVD to remove the copyprotection (by actually writing the keys to your active memory and allowing decoding), and then Handbrake should be able to pull the video and audio streams off of the disc. That's the theory at any rate.
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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Nightfox on Mon Jul 18 20:06:54 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Jul 18 2022 06:14 pm

    I've never used Handbrake for disc ripping, only transcoding.. I didn't even realize Handbrake could do that. Usually I rip discs with Makemkv, and then transcode the resulting video with Handbrake to make it smaller.

    I second MakeMKV. It's a solid utility and it can punch through most of the copy protection without the keys.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 01:19:26 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Jul 18 2022 04:15 pm

    The fact that she was in a position to possibly be a reactor operator (I am assuming nuclear) should be enough to scare anyone.


    they also have chemical reactor operators where you operatore pumps hoses, valves to xfer chemicals in liquid and powder form.

    i've done that.

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Boraxman on Tue Jul 19 05:42:04 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Boraxman to Kaelon on Tue Jul 19 2022 12:16 pm

    I do that with photos which we take which matter to us, we print them into a book, though that is only a fraction of what we've taken.

    I think this comes down to content value. When it was challenging to affix content to a physical format, authors, artists, writers, musicians, and creators throughout history exercised some degree of prioritization and restraint. "Is this important to me? Would it be important to others?" This was a critical viewpoint.

    In the Age of Digital, no such question necessarily needs to be asked. For those of us who grew up around personal computers (I'm looking at you, fellow Gen-X'ers), we still took some degree of care with how we spent our time. But true "digital natives," namely, Millennials and now Gen-Z'ers, are engaged in total digital broadcasting (sometimes derivisively dismissed as 'narcissism'). Every thought, perspective, whisper, scribble, etc., gets "affixed" to a digital format - website, blog, forum, social media stream, photo site, etc.

    TL;DR - Not everything is actually important. So the fact that most of it is lost is not, necessarily, a catastrophic loss for civilization. But it is lost, and future generations will know next to nothing about Geocities, let alone the early days of the Internet.

    I consider myself quite computer literate, having worked as IT support/co-admin, and even I worry about losing data that *I* handle, let alone others. People store their digital photo's on a laptop, one theft away from total loss. Someone I knew had theirs on a harddrive which they spilled liquid or or dropped. My wife had the only copies of many photos on her hard drive, which one day, decided to just die in a puff of smoke (luckily it somehow just worked again months later). Burned DVD's last, usually, but I've been stung by manufacturing defects. How many people use M-DISK? No one really. How many people have their photos managed by iPhoto or something, and have no idea where the files actually are on their drive, or how to access this outside of iPhoto/whatever-cloud-service?

    Great point.

    If it is hard for me, what hope do others have?

    Totally.

    So even if the information is around and not lost, how to find it? This was an issue in Medieval Europe too, old scrolls and books just laying in a jumble which no one knew, or cared, to know what they were.

    During the Renaissance, this problem was tackled programmatically through a variety of specialized roles:

    * ARCHIVISTS were responsible for determining how content would be stored for the long-haul, and built upon the ancient library science and started creating standards for preservation, categorization, and reference.

    * CHRONICLERS reviewed all of the news of the ages and built abridged histories, or Chronicles, of the time, including extentive reference to content that had been archived for future generations to conduct follow-up research.

    * HISTORIANS became the scholars that reviewed the chronicles and cross-referenced with what archivists, and lesser librarians, had stored, in order to produce more 'modern' retrospectives and studies on what really happened and what the impact of what happened was.

    We need similar roles for the new digital age. And I am not really convinced that the Internet Archive has a true archival, chronicling, and historiographic practice for their resspective domains.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Tue Jul 19 07:44:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I've also seen "M-Disc" recordsable optical discs that are
    supposedly made to last a lot longer than regular recordable
    discs.

    Haven't heard of those, but might look for that the next time I buy a spindle of something. I don't use many any more these days, but a
    couple of times a year I'll burn my /SBBS directory to one, date it, and add it to a pile.

    Yeah, I often used to burn my BBS backups to a CD-R, but now,
    even compressed, my BBS backup file needs more space than a CD-R.
    I've been using a USB flash drive most of the time now.

    A USB drive would work fine too, although somewhat more susceptible to damage/erasing, or even loss, I would think. I use a DVD-R these days.

    I actually haven't done that (burn a disc) in quite a while now... I do
    have an automated event that runs each night, doing an rsync "diff"
    backup to a server box here in the house, and also doing that to a remote/cloud server, (a Linode hosted VPS) that I have. Also every time
    I do an SBBS update, I do a complete /sbbs directory copy to a local
    server box, prior to starting the update. So I feel like I've got
    enough safety nets. :-)


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Mon Jul 18 21:49:00 2022
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Monday 18.07.22 - 08:28, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    [..] Years ago, I bought a CD from a pawn shop [..] I took
    the CD back to the store where I bought it, and they took
    the CD out of the case and brought me another copy of the
    CD they had and put it in the same case and gave that back
    to me. For some reason I thought that seemed a bit sketchy
    at the time, but I guess in the end I still ended up with a
    good copy of the CD album along with its case and the
    booklet in the case.

    Why sketchy? Did you get a home-burned CD-R version? It would
    be very easy to tell the difference between a commercial CD and
    a CD-R.

    Speaking of CD displays, I remember seeing a really clever
    "artistic" approach for home use. Instead of storing CDs in
    cabinets or towers, the mechanism permitted snapping a CD case
    in a matrix/grid on the wall. And depending on one's takes at
    the time, the mix/match of the cases would change over time
    too. I thought that was a beautiful way to enjoy favourite CD
    art either while it's playing or "just because".


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kaelon on Tue Jul 19 09:55:12 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Kaelon to Dumas Walker on Mon Jul 18 2022 08:06 pm

    Admittedly, it's been a few years since I ripped off Blu-Rays and DVDs, but you use Slyfox's AnyDVD to remove the copyprotection (by actually writing the keys to your active memory and allowing decoding), and then Handbrake should be able to pull the video and audio streams off of the disc. That's the theory at any rate.

    MakeMKV is simpler, as you don't need any other programs in order to rip from the disc. MakeMKV must have the the necessary keys.. Also, in the past, if I wanted a DVD ISO, I'd use DVD Shrink - That's also self-contained, so you don't need any other programs to rip DVD ISOs with that. (And despite the name, shrinking is optional - You could rip a DVD to 9.5GB, or it could shrink it to 4.7GB).

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Tue Jul 19 10:02:54 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay Street Video store n Toronto thrives
    By: Ogg to Nightfox on Mon Jul 18 2022 09:49 pm

    [..] Years ago, I bought a CD from a pawn shop [..] I took
    the CD back to the store where I bought it, and they took
    the CD out of the case and brought me another copy of the
    CD they had and put it in the same case and gave that back
    to me. For some reason I thought that seemed a bit sketchy
    at the time, but I guess in the end I still ended up with a
    good copy of the CD album along with its case and the
    booklet in the case.

    Why sketchy? Did you get a home-burned CD-R version? It would
    be very easy to tell the difference between a commercial CD and
    a CD-R.

    It was a commercially produced copy. I guess it seemed sketchy because they seemed to have other copies of the CD by itself (without the case) that they could give to customers to replace the one they had bought.. For a pawn shop, I wouldn't have expected that at the time, I guess.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tue Jul 19 13:21:00 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Nightfox to Kaelon on Mon Jul 18 2022 08:05 am

    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay Street Video store n Toronto thrives
    By: Kaelon to Nightfox on Sat Jul 16 2022 06:23 pm

    We're the same person. ;) And I, too, assumed that flash-disks or USB drives would have gone mainstream and replaced optical drives, but the entertainment industry is obsessed with digital rights management and getting all of the TV manufacturers to align on the same proprietary format would be madness. So, today, pretty much every TV can decode eve format via USB inserted media, but if a publisher or distributor wants DMR, they're fresh out of luck.

    Recently I was thinking that if they did start to distribute movies on USB f tanding is that blu-ray and optical drives have a set of keys stored inside

    Considering optical media starts to decay in around 20 years, this is n longer a theoretical. Any DVD or Blu-Ray purchased at the start of the millenium is nearing its end-of-life. Best to rip it soon before qualit begins to decline.

    That's what people say, but I have some old discs that I still haven't had a hat I backed up my original 90s BBS onto in 2000, and I was still able to re

    For those who have experienced optical media "decay", I have to wonder if th

    Nightfox


    I have some CD's burnt from around 98-2000 that only can be read by a slower speed cd drive. i have had some real cheap discs delaminate though

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 13:33:00 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Jul 18 2022 04:15 pm

    She was director over business services, and i cannot figure how she ranke so high. She tried to move further up the food chain by taking the senior ctor operator's licensing course. She got canned for cheating on the fina exam.


    You may have answered your own question there, assuming there were previous tests to cheat on and she didn't get caught before.

    The fact that she was in a position to possibly be a reactor operator (I am assuming nuclear) should be enough to scare anyone.


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    employee at a nuclear power generation plant. In order to become plant
    manager or site VP, she had to acquire the not just the knowledge but also
    the respect and acknowledgement of merit one gets by compling an intense 18 month 12 hour a day course.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tue Jul 19 13:40:00 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 2022 01:19 am

    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Jul 18 2022 04:15 pm

    The fact that she was in a position to possibly be a reactor operator (I assuming nuclear) should be enough to scare anyone.


    they also have chemical reactor operators where you operatore pumps hoses, v

    i've done that.

    In nuclear, folks who manipluate valves and breakers in the plant section are auxiliary operators. They report to the control room operators. The SRO is the chief of the control room.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KAELON on Tue Jul 19 16:13:00 2022
    Admittedly, it's been a few years since I ripped off Blu-Rays and DVDs, but yo
    use Slyfox's AnyDVD to remove the copyprotection (by actually writing the keys
    o your active memory and allowing decoding), and then Handbrake should be able
    o pull the video and audio streams off of the disc. That's the theory at any te.

    ahhhh, I will check into that!


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Jul 19 16:14:00 2022
    The fact that she was in a position to possibly be a reactor operator (I am
    assuming nuclear) should be enough to scare anyone.


    they also have chemical reactor operators where you operatore pumps hoses, val
    s to xfer chemicals in liquid and powder form.

    i've done that.

    Depending on the chemicals in question, the idea of her operating one of
    those might also ought to scare anyone. :)


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Kaelon on Wed Jul 20 09:33:54 2022
    Re: Preserving Digital History
    By: Kaelon to Boraxman on Tue Jul 19 2022 05:42 am

    During the Renaissance, this problem was tackled programmatically through a variety of specialized roles:

    * ARCHIVISTS were responsible for determining how content would be stored for the long-haul, and built upon the ancient library science and started creating standards for preservation, categorization, and reference.

    * CHRONICLERS reviewed all of the news of the ages and built abridged histories, or Chronicles, of the time, including extentive reference to content that had been archived for future generations to conduct follow-up research.

    * HISTORIANS became the scholars that reviewed the chronicles and cross-referenced with what archivists, and lesser librarians, had stored, in order to produce more 'modern' retrospectives and studies on what really happened and what the impact of what happened was.

    We need similar roles for the new digital age. And I am not really convinced that the Internet Archive has a true archival, chronicling, and historiographic practice for their resspective domains.
    _____
    Agree, but who? Private interests may do it, but likely to monetise it, or not be interested because there isn't a quick return. Churhes? Monasteries?

    I think the solution is custody. Who owns the information, how is it transferred. A way to transfer the public contents of a server before you decommission it. A way for people who are done maintaining their sites to simply hand it over to archivists. This would be more a cultural shift than a technological one.

    We will resolve this issue, but not without a significant period inbetween where a lot of digital information was just thrown to the wind.

    There are already questions about how to handle social media accounts after people die, who takes ownership and such, and I think this problem neatly extends to the one we are discussing.

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 16:49:25 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to KAELON on Tue Jul 19 2022 04:13 pm

    ahhhh, I will check into that!

    As others have mentioned here, I should retract my advice and instead recommend MakeMKV, which has the ability to rip the audio and video streams and completely disregard whatever encryption keys are in store. I had completely spaced on this, probably because it is primarily a command-line Linux application, but I believe there are GUI and Windows/macOS branches of MakeMKV that should work just fine these days.
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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Boraxman on Tue Jul 19 16:53:36 2022
    Re: Preserving Digital History
    By: Boraxman to Kaelon on Wed Jul 20 2022 09:33 am

    I think the solution is custody. Who owns the information, how is it transferred. A way to transfer the public contents of a server before you decommission it. A way for people who are done maintaining their sites to simply hand it over to archivists. This would be more a cultural shift than a technological one.

    This is a great idea! Chain of custody arrangements would certainly be in line with many of our legal and institutional practices. Could we formalize this so that the cultural shift is embedded in technological practices? And how would we contend with the evergreen economic interests that no doubt would prevail? A fascinating proposition, indeed!

    There are already questions about how to handle social media accounts after people die, who takes ownership and such, and I think this problem neatly extends to the one we are discussing.

    Another great observation! I think you are absolutely right; there are very compatible applications between the memorialization of the deceaseds' social media accounts and the need to preserve human knowledge beyond the digital conundrum in which we have found ourselves.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kaelon on Tue Jul 19 17:02:16 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Kaelon to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 2022 04:49 pm

    As others have mentioned here, I should retract my advice and instead recommend MakeMKV, which has the ability to rip the audio and video streams and completely disregard whatever encryption keys are in store. I had completely spaced on this, probably because it is primarily a command-line Linux application, but I believe there are GUI and Windows/macOS branches of MakeMKV that should work just fine these days.

    There is a GUI version of MakeMKV for Linux.. I didn't even know there was a command-line version..?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 19 19:53:29 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jul 19 2022 04:14 pm

    val
    s to xfer chemicals in liquid and powder form.

    i've done that.

    Depending on the chemicals in question, the idea of her operating one of those might also ought to scare anyone. :)

    yeah a guy told me someone got coated in a chemical that burns off your stink but seriously desensatizes it while doing so. so basically you are being eaten alive and don't know it.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Kaelon on Wed Jul 20 16:14:57 2022
    Re: Preserving Digital History
    By: Kaelon to Boraxman on Tue Jul 19 2022 04:53 pm

    This is a great idea! Chain of custody arrangements would certainly be in line with many of our legal and institutional practices. Could we formalize this so that the cultural shift is embedded in technological practices? And how would we contend with the evergreen economic interests that no doubt would prevail? A fascinating proposition, indeed!

    Another great observation! I think you are absolutely right; there are very compatible applications between the memorialization of the deceaseds' social media accounts and the need to preserve human knowledge beyond the digital conundrum in which we have found ourselves.
    _____

    It could be done with some containerisation. A basic static web page is already 'containerised' in that you simply need to transfer the filesystem heirarchy. More complex ones could have export and import automated. I have migrated web pages from server to server and it is something which could be futher automated.

    I could imagine a cPanel option where you can nominate where the site is archived to. Facebook and Google allow you to export your data already. We're mostly there, it is the standardisation of process and interface and creation of formal agreements. Or the nominated archive could simply be pushed an access token that allows it access, similar to how you may have someone as a github collaborator. Cloud based accounts could work similar.

    Peoples 'offline' data is a harder challenge.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 20 01:35:00 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jul 19 2022 04:14 pm

    The fact that she was in a position to possibly be a reactor operator ( assuming nuclear) should be enough to scare anyone.


    they also have chemical reactor operators where you operatore pumps hoses, s to xfer chemicals in liquid and powder form.

    i've done that.

    Depending on the chemicals in question, the idea of her operating one of those might also ought to scare anyone. :)


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    I mentioned in another thread that her getting licensed was a job advancment pre-requisite. She'd never touch a piece of real equipment

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Wed Jul 20 15:50:00 2022
    I mentioned in another thread that her getting licensed was a job advancment pre-requisite. She'd never touch a piece of real equipment

    Understood, but if she'd not been caught cheating she might have got
    licensed. :O


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Thu Jul 21 05:43:45 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Jul 17 2022 07:55 am

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Saturday 16.07.22 - 12:21, Arelor wrote to Moondog:

    Moviemakers know they make much more money from the first
    days after a theatrical release than they do from long term
    royalties and DVD sales.

    Can that really be true? I would think that the physical/
    streaming branch of a release would bring in a more guaranteed
    inflow of cash. Some actors have opted to lower salaries in
    their films for life-time royalties and are richer for that.

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    Unless a film has a lot of staying power, it won't make a significant dime past its
    expiration date.

    It is just like books. Books make most of their profit during their commertial lives
    within the first 6 months of publication of so. Then they make the rest by limping
    along through the years with no glory left on their shoulders.

    Now, a film that is a marketing freak of nature will make lots of indirect revenue,
    via licenses and merchandising, but I don't think people counts those :-)


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 05:51:36 2022
    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Jul 18 2022 07:42 pm

    Re: "Highly profitable" Bay S
    By: Moondog to Boraxman on Sun Jul 17 2022 10:19 pm

    One of the things I liked about buying DVD's was when they offered additional commentary and extra clips and mini-documentaries, such as the making of a movie. Not sure if there is a way to encrypt the director's and
    actor's commentaries into existing video formats.
    I'm pretty sure you can with some container formats, have more than one audio strea

    DVD has multiple audio channels, so you should be able to find a tool which wil let

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    file as you will ever need. YOu can even have multiple video streams inside the same
    file if you ever need that feature.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thu Jul 21 07:30:00 2022
    Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-

    Unless a film has a lot of staying power, it won't make a significant
    dime past its expiration date.

    On the podcast "How did this get made", a podcast about odd movies and
    flops, the host interviewed Mel Brooks about "Solar Babies".

    Yes, that YA post-apocalyptic cheezy flick from the '80s.

    He and Anne Bancroft started Brooks Films, because Mel wanted to get
    involved in dramas, and he was so typecast as a funny guy. They did some interesting films, like Mask, The Elephant Man and The Fly.

    He liked the idea of Solarbabies and liked the pitch - they could film in spain, buy all of the vehicles and support gear there, then sell it for a profit. They wanted $5 million. He thought he could finance that with a
    couple of friends.

    The film is set in a drought-ridden world. It immediately began raining torrents, meaning delays.

    He then had to go back to his friends for another $5 million, and was
    starting to get worried. Everything that usually goes wrong did go wrong.

    More delays, more issues, and he had to go get a second mortgage to get another $5 million.

    The movie came out and the reception was lukewarm. But, VHS came around and
    it got another life in video rentals.

    Mel Brooks said it had finally broke even - in 2014!

    The podcast had me in stiches. Mel Brooks' assistant had told the host that
    he could have 15 minutes with him, but sometimes he goes over. They spoke
    for an hour and a half.




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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thu Jul 21 19:32:00 2022
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 21.07.22 - 05:43, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    Unless a film has a lot of staying power, it won't make a
    significant dime past its expiration date.

    It is just like books. Books make most of their profit
    during their commertial lives within the first 6 months of
    publication of so. Then they make the rest by limping along
    through the years with no glory left on their shoulders.

    I see books that were released years ago only NOW getting
    attention. The various young-adult fantasy series by Leigh
    Bardugo:

    Shadow and Bone trilogy (2012)
    Six of Crows duology (2015)

    ..are just a couple are only NOW getting quite popular.


    Court of Thorns and Roses series of 5 fanstasy novels (2015) by
    Sarah Maas, are still quite popular sellers.

    There are numerous other examples of books that exceed the 1st
    6 months that you suggest. ;)


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Fri Jul 22 07:48:00 2022
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Tuesday 19.07.22 - 10:02, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    Why sketchy? Did you get a home-burned CD-R version? It
    would be very easy to tell the difference between a
    commercial CD and a CD-R.

    It was a commercially produced copy. I guess it seemed
    sketchy because they seemed to have other copies of the CD
    by itself (without the case) that they could give to
    customers to replace the one they had bought.. For a pawn
    shop, I wouldn't have expected that at the time, I guess.

    Sounds like it was a good coincidence to work in your favour.

    I've received the occassional multiple copy of a CD from a
    single source collection at my shop. But my results are
    haphazard. In the past, I've even managed to buy another copy
    of the same CD a few times for my own collection too! :/


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